Joe Shades 73 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Offense is concerning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khani1 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 7 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Offense is concerning Gotta give the pitchers some credit today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Thank you Dahl for that hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shades 73 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, Khani1 said: Gotta give the pitchers some credit today. They are standing on their head....oops wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shades 73 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Thank you Dahl for that hit. I reversed jinx the offense, I get credit for at least one run 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Sanchez was only at 80 pitches. Could’ve potentially got a complete game shutout with how he was going. Was phenomenal today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToHell Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Looks like they always have to make it interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, RoadToHell said: Looks like they always have to make it interesting Got it done but really why i didn’t like removing Sanchez when he’s pitching a gem at 80 pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToHell Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Got it done but really why i didn’t like removing Sanchez when he’s pitching a gem at 80 pitches. You have to really love how Sanchez has improved this season and become a solid starting pitcher. He was just your ordinary 5 starter but with Walker in the toilet it makes up for only having 1 starter that will hurt the team more than both him and Walker. With that said I hope Walker is done after this IL stint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shades 73 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Got it done but really why i didn’t like removing Sanchez when he’s pitching a gem at 80 pitches. Too hot out, One pitch I would have been in a coma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Too hot out, One pitch I would have been in a coma If he was laboring he last two innings I’m more for doing it. But he was cruising in the 6th and 7th. 1-2-3 in both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhilly Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Super solid to come back and win the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwill Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 6 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Offense is concerning Offense is #3 in MLB. Context is everything. Offense is down across all the MLB teams. So compare the Philly to their 2024 peers, not against some fantasy of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwill Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Sanchez was only at 80 pitches. Could’ve potentially got a complete game shutout with how he was going. Was phenomenal today According to the post game comments Rob wanted to get both Alvarado and Hoffman some work since they were well rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 4 minutes ago, mattwill said: According to the post game comments Rob wanted to get both Alvarado and Hoffman some work since they were well rested. My issue tends to be with that is you don’t have an off day until next Monday. So hypothetically what happens if you need Alvarado and Hoffman tomorrow and Tuesday. Now you used them today in a game you could’ve likely avoided using one of them and don’t have them for both of those days. If the Phillies had an off day Monday or Thursday and they’ve pitched a lot of innings so far this year. I’m fine if they go an extra couple days with rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blazehound Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Ranger is under arbitration thru 2025. I wonder what the term and dollars would look like. He turns 29 in August. Something like $115m over 5 years? Seems reasonable for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazehound Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 20 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Catching up on this now but great contract for the Phils. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwill Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: My issue tends to be with that is you don’t have an off day until next Monday. So hypothetically what happens if you need Alvarado and Hoffman tomorrow and Tuesday. Now you used them today in a game you could’ve likely avoided using one of them and don’t have them for both of those days. If the Phillies had an off day Monday or Thursday and they’ve pitched a lot of innings so far this year. I’m fine if they go an extra couple days with rest. I understand your point. The answer is a single word … rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 14 minutes ago, mattwill said: I understand your point. The answer is a single word … rhythm. Frankly less worried about rhythm at the moment and more worried about taxing their arms before October. I think the rhythm issue a bigger in September if the division doesn’t go do to the wire to have them ready for the postseason. Especially if we finally don’t have to play a WC round. I actually think it’s why we’ve seen some of the moves Thomson has made with Ruiz and Soto being put into high leverage spots were to see how they handle it and try to preserve the innings on guys’ arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwill Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Frankly less worried about rhythm at the moment and more worried about taxing their arms before October. I think the rhythm issue a bigger in September if the division doesn’t go do to the wire to have them ready for the postseason. Especially if we finally don’t have to play a WC round. I actually think it’s why we’ve seen some of the moves Thomson has made with Ruiz and Soto being put into high leverage spots were to see how they handle it and try to preserve the innings on guys’ arms. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwill Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 So take a look at the state of offense this season. It’s not a pretty picture. If baseball keeps up this pace, it would lead to … • 39,404 hits — more than 1,400 fewer than last year. • 21,078 runs — more than 1,300 fewer than last year. • 5,079 home runs — almost 800 fewer than last year. • 7,628 doubles — exactly 600 fewer than last year. But let’s put that in better perspective. At this pace, we would also be heading toward … • The fewest doubles in a season since before the 1993 expansion. That’s two expansions ago! • The fewest homers since 2015, just before the baseball got noticeably livelier. • The fewest hits per game (in a full season) since 1968. • The lowest batting average on balls in play (.288) since 1992. So here is what that means as you try to measure what a good offense or good hitter looks like in 2024: The average hitter now has a Bochy-esque slash line of .241/.311/.390. Only 25 hitters in the sport are on pace to hit 30 home runs. As recently as 2019, there were 58 of them. The average lineup now gets just 8.1 hits per game. Yikes! We’ve seen only five full seasons worse than that in the modern era (1901-present) — and four of them were 1906-07-08-09! The other was 1968. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shades 73 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 They need to limit the day games in the summer, its ridiculous, it not the heat, its the humidity that kills you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 9 hours ago, mattwill said: So take a look at the state of offense this season. It’s not a pretty picture. If baseball keeps up this pace, it would lead to … • 39,404 hits — more than 1,400 fewer than last year. • 21,078 runs — more than 1,300 fewer than last year. • 5,079 home runs — almost 800 fewer than last year. • 7,628 doubles — exactly 600 fewer than last year. But let’s put that in better perspective. At this pace, we would also be heading toward … • The fewest doubles in a season since before the 1993 expansion. That’s two expansions ago! • The fewest homers since 2015, just before the baseball got noticeably livelier. • The fewest hits per game (in a full season) since 1968. • The lowest batting average on balls in play (.288) since 1992. So here is what that means as you try to measure what a good offense or good hitter looks like in 2024: The average hitter now has a Bochy-esque slash line of .241/.311/.390. Only 25 hitters in the sport are on pace to hit 30 home runs. As recently as 2019, there were 58 of them. The average lineup now gets just 8.1 hits per game. Yikes! We’ve seen only five full seasons worse than that in the modern era (1901-present) — and four of them were 1906-07-08-09! The other was 1968. Think there’s a couple things that could be why: 1. Pitch clock year too. I think more pitchers have adapted to it and it’s benefitted them getting into a rhythm. I think for as much as people say it effected pitchers it also effected some of these hitters who have whole routines before getting set. The great ones are still fine but the ones in the middle maybe struggling. 2. like Stott and Rojas, there’s a lot of guys who have way too long of swings and trying to hit the ball harder for better exit velocity. Guys like Stott and Rojas aren’t homerun hitters. So having a long swing is a detriment and it’s why they have lower averages. Obviously want higher exit velocity if putting the ball in play but when you couple trying too with a long power swing it’s leading to struggles. Stott and Rojas at their best are single and doubles hitters. Take Bohm, he really doesn’t have an elongated swing. It’s longer than most just cause of how tall he is. But it’s not the ideal power swing. Why he leads the league in doubles. 3. I don’t have the stats but it feels like relief pitching around the league has more talent in terms of just guys who throw gas. Feels like every team has 4-6 guys that just throw absolute gas. For instance the dbacks before yesterday had 3 guys that have around 1 ERA. Only Sewald is not a power pitcher of that group. 4. Umpiring has been bad around the league. I watch enough games besides the Phillies. Can say it goes both ways for hitters and pitchers but hitters struggle more to comprehend where the strike zone is game to game. I think if they went to robot umpires it would be more consistent. Can say pitchers but pitchers throw to spots in scouting reports and know what type of hitter chases and not. I think it’s just a bigger issue for hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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